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Wow! I just wrote a really long post about baking soda and vinegar shampooing, which I tried out last night for the first time. But my network connection died, and I don't actually feel self-indulgent enough to write a treatise about washing my hair TWICE, so I'll sum up: while I haven't shampooed for at least three weeks, I had previously just been rinsing and massaging my head every day. Last night I tried a baking soda 'wash' and a conditioning vinegar 'rinse', and I have to say, it does everything they said it would do.

The baking soda clearly cleaned my hair, and after I rinsed it out, my hair felt so unpleasantly squeaky clean that I nearly put on normal conditioner. I stuck it out and did a dilute cider vinegar rinse, though, and this morning I have soft hair that feels like it was just shampooed. Kind of anticlimactic. So, I gotta say, if you're one of those people who's strongly committed to shampooing a lot (which is totally fine), but you're bored one night? Try washing with a tablespoon of baking soda in a cup of water and conditioning with a similarly dilute apple cider vinegar solution. I betcha it'll feel just like normal.

I find that I miss the SMELL of my conditioner -- I might try putting a few drops of an essential oil in the vinegar rinse next time. Other than that, well, it all worked surprisingly boringly well.

In other news, I desperately need a haircut, and I don't feel like doing it myself. Do you have a person you particularly like, who's local, good with superfine hair, and willing to use clippers and listen when I say that I don't want the girly fringey bits?

Date: 2010-07-20 03:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] cutieperson
i absolutely adore Wendy. lots of other people you know have seen her too.
she's now at Revive Salon in the South End. Megan & Cheryl are also good, but Wendy is Amazing.

Date: 2010-07-20 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veek.livejournal.com
Hey, yay for baking soda and vinegar! I have no recommendations because, um, you're the person who cuts my hair best. :)

Date: 2010-07-20 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingwolfgrrl.livejournal.com
I've had good luck with whoever's available at Liquid. They pretty much just listen to me, even when what I want is a cut that is utterly unlike the aesthetic the stylist's own haircuts suggest, and I appreciate that.

Date: 2010-07-20 03:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] desiringsubject.livejournal.com
Whoever is available at La Flamme. They don't really *do* girl hair, so as soon as you establish that that's not what you want they get a lot happier and calmer. Also $14, I think. Maybe $15.

Date: 2010-07-20 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oneagain.livejournal.com
I would be very curious to know how adding essential oil to cider vinegar works out.

Date: 2010-07-20 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] youngwilliam.livejournal.com
And if it'd be any good on a salad.

Date: 2010-07-20 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aroraborealis.livejournal.com
I'm doing JUST lemon juice (I like the lingering scent more than vinegar) in my hair these days (and a little dab of lotion I made, which gives it more nice scent) and really happy with it. I have baking soda in the shower for if/when my hair just feels like it's in desperate need of a deep cleaning.

I really like Christine at Salon Cu, who also has cut Sierra's and Michel's hair. She's punky, creative, has ideas, and is also happy to listen to you about what you want.

Date: 2010-07-20 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] entrope.livejournal.com
Yes yes! I loooooooove Christine.

Date: 2010-07-20 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yagagriswold.livejournal.com
Twelve thumbs up for Salon Cu. I usually see Carlo. (Also, they're great neighbors.)

Date: 2010-07-20 04:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] coraline
i know that lemon juice traditionally is used to lighten hair -- are you noticing any changes in dye fastness, or lightness of the rest of your hair?

Date: 2010-07-20 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aroraborealis.livejournal.com
Not so far. I'm diluting it quite a lot, and I think that makes the difference. And, in fact, i think the mild acid may be helping keep the dye IN my hair, a la a vinegar rinse.

Date: 2010-07-21 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artricia.livejournal.com
In my experience, lemon juice needs sunlight to bleach. Without sunlight, no bleachy.

Date: 2010-07-20 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weegoddess.livejournal.com
::interestedly reading along::

I'm not planning to have my hair cut anytime soon (like ever) but I love what you've written about no-poo. Teehee. ;-D

Date: 2010-07-20 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gretchens.livejournal.com
Weirdly, your original post was then followed by Dave mentioning something he'd read about no-poo and curly hair, and then on another forum I'm on, THEY were discussing it, so I've actually been trying out the 'curly girl' method which is no sulfate shampoo, and washing with conditioner, so I've used the new sulfate free stuff once in a week, and conditioner a few times and water every other time, and the conditioner wash is kind of nice in that I still have the ritual and the scent I like, but it's 'better.' I will totally confess to being more motivated by vanity than the planet, though. I love that I ended up with curly hair, so I try to maximize it, and if no/low-poo helps, I'm in. (Of course, I'm vain about my curls and my glasses and then I pretty much don't care about anything else.)

Date: 2010-07-20 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuthalion.livejournal.com
That's kind of like Daredevil, the blind superhero whose power is that his other senses are so keen it's like he's not blind!

Date: 2010-07-20 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pekmez.livejournal.com
I like Carlo at salon CU in ball square. My hair is superfine and he groks it.

Date: 2010-07-20 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starphire.livejournal.com
Wow, that's awesome. I'm glad it works so well for you. My first thought is "Well, it's easy if you have short hair". But then I remember all the folks at the lj longhair community who are happy with no-poo and realize maybe I'm running out of excuses here, not to try it.

Date: 2010-07-20 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Try it! I mean, try the baking soda wash and vinegar rinse part and see how you feel the next day. It's super easy, and I have baking soda and cider vinegar downstairs if you're out. :)

I think that in reality I have *bad* hair for the no-poo thing -- people I know who are into it seem to have thick, long, curly hair. But hey, it works so far!

Date: 2010-07-21 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artricia.livejournal.com
Is the baking soda/vinegar wash pretty strong? Will it cut through oily hair crud?

Date: 2010-07-21 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
It did for me the other day. Note [livejournal.com profile] surrealestate's problems in another comment -- maybe worth making sure you definitely do the vinegar rinse!

Date: 2010-07-23 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Last night, I tried just a vinegar rinse on one half of my head, and baking soda wash then vinegar rinse on the other half. They both look good; the half that was just vinegar is slightly glossier in a way that I like, but I think that means that the baking soda removes more of the oils than vinegar alone. So my new plan is: baking soda when I have a lot of unpleasant oily hair crud, and just vinegar the other times I need a wash.

Date: 2010-07-23 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] artricia.livejournal.com
Is there anything you can't do with baking soda and vinegar?

Probably there's even a way to get high off it.

Date: 2010-07-21 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] surrealestate.livejournal.com
So I'd been semi-poo for a bit, anyway, and since I'm almost out of poo, I thought I'd give the baking soda a try today.

Disaster! First I was confused by how I could wash my hair with the mix in the first place, since that dilute, it was still pretty much like water. But I gave it a go, pouring half of it over my head and trying to massage it in, then doing the rest. I wasn't sure if it really got all over. Is there a trick to this?

Then I rinsed. And rinsed. And rinsed. And my hair still felt like it weighed a ton and felt dirty like it hadn't been washed in ages. I rinsed more, no dice. It was like my hair and scalp were coated in a thin layer of concrete. So I thought, maybe it just needs conditioning... Tried some conditioner, but it just exacerbated the issue.

After 10 or 15 minutes, I finally washed with some diluted shampoo and joy! It was like a 5-lb weight fell off of my head. My hair felt lighter and silkier and no longer stayed in place if I bent it.

So, uh, any thoughts on what I did completely wrong here?

Date: 2010-07-21 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Wild! Maybe it was too much soda? My hair felt sticky before I did my vinegar rinse, and I could see the extreme version of that feeling like concrete. Next time I wash, I'm going to try just the vinegar rinse to see how it goes. I liked the feel of that part a whole lot more!

Date: 2010-07-23 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moominmolly.livejournal.com
Indeed, I tried again last night with less baking soda in the baking soda wash, and it had less of that sticking-to-itself feeling.

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