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Date: 2012-08-10 02:07 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2012-08-10 02:21 pm (UTC)(naturally, of course, I worry about that too.)
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Date: 2012-08-10 02:23 pm (UTC)True that.
"(naturally, of course, I worry about that too.)"
Oh, that goes without saying. I imagine you've got it even worse than I do.
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Date: 2012-08-10 02:25 pm (UTC)N.
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Date: 2012-08-10 03:25 pm (UTC)My mom figured out that I needed to know the backup plan (my great aunt), to talk about how people have to live even though scary things sometimes happen, and an open expression of how much I was loved and how much I loved her.
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Date: 2012-08-10 05:57 pm (UTC)knowing the backup plan was vital for me. i think i needed not just the backup plan but two contingency plans, as well. not only was i precocious, but already a skilled worrier, adept at recognizing my own anxiety, and so well-versed in masking depression and anxiety that it was a complete revelation when i learned it wasn't normal to feel that way.
so um. i second the idea of letting her know the backup plan, and knowing how much love is involved in not only the immediate family, but also the backup plan.
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Date: 2012-08-11 12:18 am (UTC)The love, happily, I think we've got covered.
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Date: 2012-08-10 03:50 pm (UTC)She's been wrapping her brain around mortality a lot in the past year because my father's cat, Rusty, died and that was very sad for her, and we have some people in our life who are very sick with cancer (not quite end stage, but she's picking up on the fact that her Aunt might die).
Good luck... I have a book on death and dying that I have been reading with K sometimes, I'll share the title when I get home, I'm totally having a brain fart at the moment.
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Date: 2012-08-10 07:13 pm (UTC)I wish this culture made it easier to look over someone's shoulder when they're making funeral arrangements; I sort of vaguely understand what that entails but would like to know more. I find it steadying to focus on "How will I know who to tell about/invite to my mother's funeral?" rather than "How will I personally cope with my mother's death?".
Has N had the direct experience of loss? If she has, or when she does, you can gently use her reactions to that as an example of how people can keep going on with their lives even when they're grieving. For that matter, you can describe your own past and lingering grief, and point out that you have found lots of ways to be happy after sad things happen. Grief is hard, but you're okay. She'll be okay too.
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Date: 2012-08-11 12:21 am (UTC)Several people now have mentioned having practical discussions... and I see a lot of value in that. I mean, I do it myself! I also find it steadying to focus on "what would I do". Thank you.
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Date: 2012-08-10 07:33 pm (UTC)I was always afraid my mom would die. My sister and I, as young as 4 or 5, used to play-act what we would do, where we would run away to if mom died. We play-acted being in an orphanage and having someone decide they wanted one of us and not the other (then we ran away from the orphanage together).
Reflecting on it later, I guess I had always imagined that as kids learn about death it's natural they would fear that. These days there's always a part of my brain afraid of a partner dying. Every day. I never knew this wasn't how everyone who loved someone was. oh. hm.
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Date: 2012-08-11 12:22 am (UTC)Well, it's what *I* do. :) But I wasn't afraid of death as a kid; it's harder for me to relate to what she's going through. I know that the fear of death used to keep one of my brothers up nights, though, starting when he was about her age; I'm hoping to head that off.
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Date: 2012-08-11 06:36 am (UTC)I never thought of it as pre-coping for the death of a parent, or dealing with the secret fear, but now that I reflect on it, I was in fact terrified that mom would die or disappear in some horrible way.
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Date: 2012-08-10 08:42 pm (UTC)Which is I guess not so relevant to the situation at hand with N...
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Date: 2012-08-11 12:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-08-10 11:17 pm (UTC)but "death" is a pretty big concept for a little girl to try to wrap her head around.
love is a pretty good antidote for fear; other than that i don't have much to contribute.
*hugs*
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Date: 2012-08-11 12:23 am (UTC)Oh, don't sell that line short. It made me smile and feel a little warmer inside. It's my usual response to scary stuff for her, and it DOES help.
"death" is a pretty big concept for a little girl to try to wrap her head around.
For better and for worse, we seem to have gotten one that loves the big things.
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Date: 2012-08-11 05:15 am (UTC)In sober truth, it is. There are many things I lie awake worrying about these days, and they are all absolutely real things to fear that will happen eventually and will be horrible when they do. No one can tell me that they won't happen. But someone can hold me and give me something else to think about. Things will happen whether or not I lie awake worrying about them first, so I may as well hug my family and go to sleep in the meantime.
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Date: 2012-08-11 01:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-08-11 02:18 am (UTC)Of course! Nice.
A truth and beauty sword.
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Date: 2012-08-12 11:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-08-13 05:43 am (UTC)Lately my dear friend mentioned that she and her 10 year old have a plan for if he's home alone and someone breaks into the house: he's generally in his bedroom, in the back, and he'd go out through the back window, get to the neighbor's house, and tell them / call 911 only after he's safely away. ... I'm glad they have this plan, and it feels as important as thinking about death. ... Thanks for the food for thought!